Sunday, August 14, 2005

Bad vs Worse

Actually, I find it very comforting that they are fighting one another... makes me feel like we're not the only ones who Allah wants dead... turns out- depending on which side you ask- he wants all of them dead, too!

Who didn't see this coming? Actually, it has been happening for some time now... over a thousand years, by most estimates. There is such division among the various sects of islam... and when the fringe players can't even play nice long enough to fight the infidel Westerners, you know it's bad!

[[ Zarqawi is in a bind. His plan to foment civil war between Sunnis and Shiites is now being opposed by his Sunni "allies". Sunni tribes are tiring of his violence against fellow Iraqis, even against non-Sunnis. Al Qaeda must stop the election to ratify the constitution to further deny the Iraqi government legitimacy. Sunni clerics are beginning to encourage their followers to vote. Zarqawi responds by using the only tools he understands – threats, intimidation, violence.

-- The leaders of four of Iraq's Sunni tribes had rallied their fighters in response to warnings posted in mosques by followers of Zarqawi. The postings ordered Ramadi's roughly 3,000 Shiites to leave the city of more than 200,000 in the area called the Sunni Triangle. The order to leave within 48 hours came in retaliation for alleged expulsions by Shiite militias of Sunnis living in predominantly Shiite southern Iraq.

-- "We have had enough of his nonsense," said Sheik Ahmad Khanjar, leader of the Albu Ali clan, referring to Zarqawi. "We don't accept that a non-Iraqi should try to enforce his control over Iraqis, regardless of their sect -- whether Sunnis, Shiites, Arabs or Kurds.'' ]]

This is from The Fourth Rail - the whole post is a very good read. (Link to original post)



Anonymous Tsar Lazar said...

Personally, I'm not crying. Given what the Sword of Islam has done to the Body of Christ over the centuries, I hope they turn on each other like rats in a cage.

Pomoze Bog.

Tsar Lazar

PS You have a great blog---keep it up. :)

14/8/05 14:55  
Blogger kmg said...

Thanks, tsar lazar (cool name!),

I agree with you... the history revisionists not withstanding, many people are fully aware of the true nature of the aggression that the West has faced from the "religion of peace".

Thanks for the input- I appreciate it!

14/8/05 16:20  
Blogger husker_met said...

All anyone who knows what they're talking about has to do to see how the war in Iraq is going is to look at how the insurgency is evolving.

Far from being Michael Moore's "Minutemen", Zarqawi and Co. are roundly disliked by both sides of the political spectrum.

The Sunnis don't like him because they see the new government gaining power and don't want to be delegitimized.

The Shi'ites don't like him because he is fighting against a government in which they will wield a lot of power.

The Kurds don't like him because insurgents running around like wild indians makes it difficult to sell the idea of an autonomous Kurdish region.

So rather than make nice with all these disparate groups, Zarqawi tries to play both sides against the middle, and winds up alienating them all.

Sure he can hold certain segments of the population in fear, and blow up a politician or two. But ultimately, just as the big bad US can't be everywhere all at once, Zarqawi really lacks the manpower to hold populations in his sway.

Traditionally (according to Mao), insurgents are supposed to try to come off to the populace as the nice guys or "freedom fighters", thereby transforming their small uprising into a "people's war".

After word got out about how the indigenes in Fallujah were treated by foreigners doing Zarqawi's bidding, all illusion of a people's war melted away.

Long and short of it is that we are beating Zarqawi at the hearts and minds game. We're inside his decision cycle and he's starting to become more and more desperate.

Zarqawi has yet to achieve a single political goal in Iraq (no civil war yet, no collapse of government, no demand for Shi'ite retribution on Sunnis, etc.) and we've achieved all of ours to date.

Moreover, everyone I know who has been there tells me the Iraqis are grateful to us (the United States) and fed up with all the instability caused by A-Q/inurgency. They may not like our occupation, but they love us in comparison to Zarqawi.

I don't know about anyone else here, but that's not the way I'd run my insurgency.

14/8/05 19:26  
Blogger kmg said...

" ... Long and short of it is that we are beating Zarqawi at the hearts and minds game. We're inside his decision cycle and he's starting to become more and more desperate. ... "

This is the very heart of the matter. With patient consistency and the full support of our people, this one is a foregone conclusion.

Patience is not our country's current strong point...

Sad, but true.

14/8/05 20:06  
Anonymous Tsar Lazar said...

"After word got out about how the indigenes in Fallujah were treated by foreigners doing Zarqawi's bidding, all illusion of a people's war melted away."

Exactly, and here is the real chink in the armor of Islam. What the MSM terms "radical Muslims" aren't radical at all...just very conservative and fundamentalist in their views. Anyone who has read the Qur'an and the Hadith knows that groups like A-Q are simply taking Islamic teachings on the relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims to their logical conclusion. As in the Christian and Jewish West, there are some who go this route, while others take a more "liberal" view. The only difference between referring to A-Q as fundamentalist radicals and then calling evangelicals in the US "right-wing fundementalists" is a matter of chosen terminology, not of kind.

So, in the Muslim world you have "conservatives" (with which the large majority of the Muslim world agree and sympathize)and "liberals" (which the majority of Muslims view as decadent and elitist). When a group of conservatives like A-Q come into a neighborhood of less conservative Muslims and begin treating them as the Qur'an says they should---as "backsliders"---they naturally arouse the emnity of the people. So, the Sword of Islam is two-edged, and the very people who A-Q claims to be leading back to the Narrow Way may turn on them and string them from a tree.

At least, we can only hope.

Pomoze Bog.

Tsar Lazar

14/8/05 21:44  
Blogger kmg said...

Tsar Lazar:

Well said...

Yes, we can "only hope"... and we can "only pray"...

...but, we can also keep the offensive going- and keep the fight in their yard for as long as we need to.

Best defense...

14/8/05 22:10  
Blogger husker_met said...


Dead on. Islam, as a whole, has never undergone a (small L) liberalization like the Christian church or Judaism.

That's what makes Jihadism and Leftism such strange bedfellows.

Lefties and their "do it in the streets" attitude would be the first to the chopping block if the jihadists win.

14/8/05 23:23  
Blogger husker_met said...


I guess we must be the moderates!

14/8/05 23:24  

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